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15 hours ago, PGHFiend said:

Remember this....

A travel trailer puts approx 10 percent of its weight on the tow vehice 

A 5th wheel puts about 20 percent on the tow vehicle.  

If you max loaded the axles,  based on the design of a 5th wheel, you would have in your case,

5200 x 2= 10400

Plus 

10400 x 20% = 2080

Total = 12480 rolling down the road max. 

Every bit of weight you add to the camper is loaded onto the truck hitch weight at the same 20% rate.

Most rv manufacturers leave no room for error and depend on the 20 percent hitch weight to make the vehicle legal on the axles. You're doing good looking at campers with 8 lug 16 inch wheels with load e tires.  

Thanks, this important for us to understand when it comes to payload.  

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GGC    1

You need two figures to determine GVWR, just add these two.

The axle weight RATING, which you have and the pin weight RATING, which you do not know, but need to know for the correct GVW.  The dealer probably doesn't have the correct number and it is not shown on the sticker as a specific value.  1953 lbs. just sounds strange to me, although it may be the pin rating. 

Pin weight and pin rating are different animals.

Best thing is to weigh the tow vehicle and then get the trailer hooked up and weigh the whole combo,  The difference being the weight of the trailer.  While you're on the scale get all your axle weights for the tow rig and trailer.  The actual weights on any axle should not exceed the ratings for the truck or the trailer.

The actual gross combination weight should not exceed the combo weight rating for the truck either.

Get the difference of the GVWR of the trailer and actual weight of the trailer.  The result is cargo capacity(weight) for the trailer,

such as propane, water and all the other stuff you want to load.

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10 hours ago, GGC said:

You need two figures to determine GVWR, just add these two.

The axle weight RATING, which you have and the pin weight RATING, which you do not know, but need to know for the correct GVW.  The dealer probably doesn't have the correct number and it is not shown on the sticker as a specific value.  1953 lbs. just sounds strange to me, although it may be the pin rating. 

Pin weight and pin rating are different animals.

Best thing is to weigh the tow vehicle and then get the trailer hooked up and weigh the whole combo,  The difference being the weight of the trailer.  While you're on the scale get all your axle weights for the tow rig and trailer.  The actual weights on any axle should not exceed the ratings for the truck or the trailer.

The actual gross combination weight should not exceed the combo weight rating for the truck either.

Get the difference of the GVWR of the trailer and actual weight of the trailer.  The result is cargo capacity(weight) for the trailer,

such as propane, water and all the other stuff you want to load.

Thank you.

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Sounds to me like GD is trying to get in under a hitch weight to easly go on a 3/4 ton or even 1/2 ton truck by playing a numbers game.

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