ftwildernessguy

The reality at RV shows is that the units shown have factory incentives attached.  You may not have much wiggle room with the dealers, and if you go to the dealership afterwards you may not be able to get the same price - factory incentives are gone.  Poof. I have found the prices at show are pretty low.  The drawback is you are buying the unit there which 500 people and their dirty kids have run through, jumping on the beds and dripping ice cream on the sofa.  I have heard some real horror stories from people who picked up their units after buying at a show.  That being said, I have heard many happy individuals who have gotten some really good deals at shows.

The only time it got to me was when FWGirl and I got fastpasses before we got in the regular line.  Riding twice in a row was a little much for us.  Had to sit on a bench for a while.

And "that other board" is near the bottom!  Love it!

This topic is what started the ball rolling for me getting banned on some other site - somebody asked if staying at the fort was worth it, and I said no.  I believe the mouse is approaching that price where it just isn't going to be worth it to stay at FW anymore.  If neighboring camgrounds are smart, instead of raising their fees to that level, they will keep the prices down and offer more activities to attract campers.  If the mouse sees revenues falling and empty campsites during "peak" season, maybe they will rethink things.  Either that or Bobby will use it as an excuse to shut it down and expand the proposed DVC resort.  Amazing that during this recession, Disney has done nothing but raise prices.

My kids all like beer as much as I do.  It's been a long time since I did Epcot with young kids so I can't help

Epcot does have the best beer selection on property.

The hospital I work for gave us a card for 25 bucks at Christmas.  At first, I was excited - hey, I can take the wife out on the hospital.  Then I went online and tried to redeem it and found out it was a discount off your tab at restaurants we never go to.  So to save 25 bucks, I had to spend 50 bucks at a restaurant I didn't like.  I guess if you can find a discount someplace you normally go to, it is worthwhile.

I believe Keystone discontinued the Loft model.  I, too, remember the guy at Voldemort with the loft.  It was an interesting concept, but as I recall he said the loft area got really hot, and was a bit of a pain to open and close.

I think that the Outback is a nice made unit thay seem to be popular as I have seen alot in our travels, the only thing I did not care for was the white interior but that's just me.

The all white interiors were discontinued in 2009.  They did keep the white upper cabinets in the the Kitchen, but all other cabinets and the cover on the refrigerator is a darker brown.

I have a Keystone Outback 210rs and Dave just bought an Outback.  Personally, I like the overall quality of construction and the materials used.  We have been very pleased overall.  When we bought, I couldn't come close with any other trailer in quality for the price.

I always sit in the back of the bus so the driver can't see me and my friends getting into trouble.

I was lucky enough to ride a few times when not only the eagle was flying, but the Yeti actually moved - not Disco Yeti like now!

My son would kill me if I didn't mention his company's attraction, The Sum of All Thrills.  It's at innoventions, sponsored by Raytheon, and you design one of three types of courses, then get on a motion simulator and ride what you designed.  The motion simulators are more open air than the ones at Disneyquest, and are mounted on the robotic arms many auto manufacturers use.  It's more for older kids, but I have seen a number of little kids that liked it, too.

When my kids were young, Epcot was their favorite park.  If Kim Possible adventure had been there at that time, we never would have gotten them to leave.

Ireally don't know too much about what you used, but did you prep the roof first?  Most of the stuff you put on a rubber roof requires it to be absolutely clean prior to application, or it will just stick to the dirt and come right off.

Bobby says if you bring your camper, you better leave it in the lot.  He will make a ton more money building a hotel and selling DVC memberships to wannabes who will buy into a FW DVC resort and then call themselves "campers."  Plus, he says he won't waste any more lakefront property on trailer trash.

I agree with Deb.  You can't really go wrong with 1600,1700 or 1800.  1900 was not so great when we were there - each campsite was like a little penninsula - surrounded by water on three sides.  We like the 1800 loop - sites seem larger and it's a little more secluded than the 1600 or 1700.

And the best baked good in all of Walt Disney World is...

The carrot cake cookie from the Writer's Stop @ Hollywood Studios.

Carrot cake in cookie form???

GENIUS!!!

A traditional treat for FWGirl and I.  Too much for one, so we share.

I think Kim should delete that picture. 

This seemed kind of involved to me, so I made one with an old sock and a glue gun.  Doesn't quite look the same, though.

Probably doesn't look the same but I bet it's unique!

I think I'll try one with a clean sock.

That looks like a nice little campground.

This seemed kind of involved to me, so I made one with an old sock and a glue gun.  Doesn't quite look the same, though.

Very very nice, if I can find them, I will post pics of some of my projects... I love woodworking!!!!

I remember seeing pics of some really nice kitchen cabinets you did, John.

That is a pretty cool looking lamp.  Maybe I'll show the wife and she will motivate me.

I used to do a fair amount of woodworking before we moved into this house.  We moved here 16 years ago and my woodshop still isn't set up, other than my radial arm saw and bandsaw which I needed for some remodelling projects.  My dad was really into it.  After he died, I brought home a lot of his stuff from his shop, but it is still in boxes in mine.  Maybe in 6 years when I plan on semi-retiring I will get around to it.  My son is trying to get me interested in helping him build a bar.  So far, just in the planning stages.

The interiors look HUGE!  I would buy one of the things for the big bathroom alone, and I don't need it.