Roller ... aka Ed

At that price, Bobby Flay should be running the grill and cooking to order right next to you! :rofl2:

Why was my first though, that a double decker bus would make a great RV ... :rofl2:

We'll keep an eye out - just not actively searching ... and it WON'T be at the RV Dealer in Tallahassee!

We've mainly looked at the Roo and Jayco hybrids.  Now we just need to find one with the right features and the right price.  If (when) it happens - fine.  Otherwise, we're not really in the market - at least for a while.

We found the 'perfect fit' and the deal fell through because of a jackwagon manager at the RV place.  Now we are really depressed, and not even in the 'actively looking' market.  IF we happen to come across the right one at the right price  :rofl2: - otherwise  :D

Now we are back to looking at hybrids.  I was against them because of all the heating/cooling and leak issues I've head about.  As long as we do our preventative maintenance, I do see those being a deal breaker ...

With 3 kids I would go look at a dodge mega cab. They have lots of room

I second this suggestion. I have a mega cab and it has plenty of room. With a bed cover, you would have more room to carry stuff in the TV as well. The mega cab will allow your kids to grow without out growing the TV. Not to mention, if you go with a 2500 or 3500 CTD, you allow for those future TT upgrades that will surely come.  :rofl2:

I vote for this too.  It's what PureTCrazy and I have kicked around for 4 adults ...

We see all of you checking out this thread.  Ya'll need to register and really get in on the action!  :rofl2:

they look like I hitem with a frying pan in the face!!

I like to use my cast iron for that  :rofl2:

Hey Runner!!

I'm going to hi-jack this thread because I want to hear all about how you went from a cardiac mess to a marathon runner!!  I think this must be an amazing story and worth hearing!!

This one isn't hi-jacked ... That story is in the member section.  Nudge Nudge Wink Wink.  Any of you guest lurkers can follow up on this IF you join the rest of us Fort Fiends!  :D

If we had not had a vehicle. I would have been totally SOL about getting to the run - and out a fair amount of $ in registration fees, etc.

For those that don't have a vehicle, cabs are available and can be at most resorts within 5 minutes. For the Fort, the cabs are staged at TTC. That's one phone number I would put into my cell phone contacts if I were at WDW, just in case.

From what I've seen/heard, the cabs aren't cheap - and would be an added cost that wasn't planned on.

If Disney was supposed to provide transportation from ALL resorts - one way or another - then I would be more than pissed if I had to pay out of pocket to cover their asses.  I'm not that kind of person, but I can see someone turning it into a lawsuit ...

BTW, I DID call the Transportation number.  Even they didn't have an answer other than find some way to get to Wilderness Lodge or drive myself, because they weren't going to dispatch anything to pick me (and a bunch of others given the crowd waiting at the Outpost Bus Stop) and transport me anywhere.  On that day, Fort Wilderness WAS the ugly, red headed black sheep of the Disney Resorts.  Not one of the Disney people seemed to give a shit before or after the fact.

Sorry for the rant - I know it wasn't you - but Disney Transportation (or a 3rd party contractee) failed miserably that day.

Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink If you want to point this out to someone that might actually care or be able to do something in the future - I have two more runs scheduled this year and I'm staying at Fort Wilderness for both  ;D

I got there by driving to EPCOT.

The only answer was, "You bus was at Wilderness Lodge".  There was no answer to how we were supposed to get there.  The internal bus was NOT running - nor assigned to run - at that time of the morning.

Not just at The Fort, but at all the Resorts, I have OCCASIONALLY seen the 'black & whites'.  We there is really an issue, they are no where to be found - at least it seems that way sometimes.

I'm not saying the others are better - just that they WERE better on that particular morning.  When I have a tight time slot to be somewhere, I always drive - or give a couple of hours for Disney Transportation.  Mom LOVES the boats, so we try to arrange things so she gets her boat rides.  For example, to get to EPCOT - take a WDW Bus to The Studios; walk to the boat dock and ride a boat to the International Gateway.  It takes longer that way, but shes happier - and if all were doing are the Countries, it's a lot less walking for us.

I DO know that it has to be a major headache for someone to keep the system running - but ... The Fort fell through the cracks that morning and no one seemed to know why OR care.  If we had not had a vehicle (flew in and Magical Express to The Fort, for example) I would have been totally SOL (sure outta luck) about getting to the run - and out a fair amount of $ in registration fees, etc.  In that case, it would have taken more than the blow off answer I got.

:D

Transportation thread moved/started ... sorry  :siren:

One more point about the buses.  Every resort - EXCEPT The Fort - has transportation at those odd hours when runs are scheduled at Disney World.

I asked when I checked in; I called the night before; I called EARLY in the morning on the day I was scheduled to do the Marathon weekend 5K.  Do you thing I got the right story from any of those contacts - hell no. Would I have made it on time if we didn't have a car to drive over to EPCOT - hell no! I pay just like any other resort guest at Disney World - I shouldn't get sub-standard service just because I'm at The Fort.

I'm not sure we're talking WDW transportation in your case. Usually, if the event warrants it, special events use third party buses and not the WDW buses. I have never transported runners to a marathon starting location. Or as I like to call them, crazy people.

It may be contracted, but both WDW and 3rd Party buses were delivering to EPCOT that morning (about 5am or so).  Here is a clip from the RunDisney site:

Walt Disney World? Marathon Weekend presented by CIGNA

Transportation

WALT DISNEY WORLD? Marathon Weekend Transportation has been arranged for WALT DISNEY WORLD? Resort guests. Buses will be indicated by WALT DISNEY WORLD? Marathon Weekend signs placed in the front windows and will run every 20 minutes from WALT DISNEY WORLD? Resorts to the following events:

Notice it doesn't say EXCEPT from Ft Wilderness.  We are supposed to catch 'our' bus over at Wilderness Lodge - except they don't tell you that.  Even then, every one said that the internal bus that went to Wilderness Lodge was 'supposed to be running' - but it wasn't.  That meant, drive to Wilderness Lodge to catch a bus - or just drive ourselves over.  Either choice is NOT acceptable - and conflicts with their own statement ... unless they don't consider Fort Wilderness a Disney Resort  :siren:

To not hijack another thread, I'm bringing this over here.

As you can tell, I have a peeve about Disney World NOT doing what they say they do for people entered in THEIR runs that happen to be staying at Fort Wilderness.

While I am not an expert, I am a wise ass.  With that being said, you don't need a big truck as the experts would lead you to believe.  WIth gas prices today a small subcompact car will do.

http://youtu.be/56XL0TysIn0

If PureTCrazy & I could fine two that would mate up with our Malibu Maxx's, we'd jump on them.

One more point about the buses.  Every resort - EXCEPT The Fort - has transportation at those odd hours when runs are scheduled at Disney World.

I asked when I checked in; I called the night before; I called EARLY in the morning on the day I was scheduled to do the Marathon weekend 5K.  Do you thing I got the right story from any of those contacts - hell no. Would I have made it on time if we didn't have a car to drive over to EPCOT - hell no! I pay just like any other resort guest at Disney World - I shouldn't get sub-standard service just because I'm at The Fort.

I'm not sure we're talking WDW transportation in your case. Usually, if the event warrants it, special events use third party buses and not the WDW buses. I have never transported runners to a marathon starting location. Or as I like to call them, crazy people.

It may be contracted, but both WDW and 3rd Party buses were delivering to EPCOT that morning (about 5am or so).  Here is a clip from the RunDisney site:

Walt Disney World? Marathon Weekend presented by CIGNA

Transportation

WALT DISNEY WORLD? Marathon Weekend Transportation has been arranged for WALT DISNEY WORLD? Resort guests. Buses will be indicated by WALT DISNEY WORLD? Marathon Weekend signs placed in the front windows and will run every 20 minutes from WALT DISNEY WORLD? Resorts to the following events:

Notice it doesn't say EXCEPT from Ft Wilderness.  We are supposed to catch 'our' bus over at Wilderness Lodge - except they don't tell you that.  Even then, every one said that the internal bus that went to Wilderness Lodge was 'supposed to be running' - but it wasn't.  That meant, drive to Wilderness Lodge to catch a bus - or just drive ourselves over.  Either choice is NOT acceptable - and conflicts with their own statement ... unless they don't consider Fort Wilderness a Disney Resort  :rollercoaster:

One more point about the buses.  Every resort - EXCEPT The Fort - has transportation at those odd hours when runs are scheduled at Disney World.

I asked when I checked in; I called the night before; I called EARLY in the morning on the day I was scheduled to do the Marathon weekend 5K.  Do you thing I got the right story from any of those contacts - hell no.  :argh:  Would I have made it on time if we didn't have a car to drive over to EPCOT - hell no!  :rofl2:

I pay just like any other resort guest at Disney World - I shouldn't get sub-standard service just because I'm at The Fort.

We asked why it was traded it, because it really is in great shape.  The people bought it - and traded up to larger because they wanted to haul two Harley's (his & hers).  You know they were screwed when they bought it and again when they traded up, so I agree they could have made a deal with us.  That just means we won't even use them for all the extras we would pick up over time ...

$%^&* Cheap ass bastards!  They would hardly budge on the price.  They wanted $21,900 out the door - which puts the bottom line around 20K.  We found the same for less than 19K.  They wouldn't match - or come close.  The difference is enough to be a deal breaker  :rofl2:

:argh: I guess we'll just keep looking ...

Divide the list price by1.35, that will be a ballpark cost of the unit.  DON'T multiply by .65 it is not the same.  Remember it's close but not perfect, MH's have a different divisor.  GOOD LUCK!

There price/1.35 + tax, tag, etc puts the end result pretty close to the 18% off their sale price.  The divide by 1.35 ends up real close to the sale price I'm shooting for, in other words.  :rofl2:

Ed a folding footrest is gonna be a must. I would check with Richie 1st and get some prices on a seat kit. I paid $467.00 with shipping for mine. Also put an old pillow against the wall in front of the cart. As you probably noticed my cart has marred the wall. Offer them about 30% less than they're asking and let them work you to 25% off. They got room trust me on a used one.

I had already figured out that a folding foot rest was a must.  Their cart had a huge, custom one - but it was obvious there wasn't enough for any foot rest that didn't fold.

We were there close to closing time, so didn't really have time to dicker any - but the saleman admitted they could come off the "sticker" price.  We told them we were going to look on the internet for the lowest price around, and he said they 'probably' could match it.  So far, we found one 18% lower than their price - and that has to have some wiggle room too  :argh:

If we can get it for that 18% range AFTER tax, tag, etc, we will be very happy campers - in our 'new' Outback!  :popo:

The only thing w/ the side ramp is that some times it's hard to unload.  The "thanks for your service" should have ended w/ Comrade.  Life member VFW Post 5302 in Illinois and retired military.

We had the potential salesman demonstrate.  He said he had only done it a couple of times with other toy haulers, but he didn't seem to have issues ... taking his time.  It IS a tight fit, and I would definitely want to practice loading and unloading a good bit to feel comfortable with it.  We would have to use a folding rear step for it it fit - a fixed rear step is too much for it (but the ones they had were fairly large ...).

I was a member of our local Post until it folded due to lack of membership.  Now (and even back then I was) I am a life member of the DAV.  No local for that either.  I am in the boondocks.  Some time this summer we are getting the County's very first fast food - a Subway.  Walmart?  That's almost an hour's drive to the closest one  :banana:

After great gnashing of teeth and dithering over different styles, 'must haves' & 'want to haves', PureTCrazy & I have decided that the Outback 29KBH is the 'perfect fit' for us.  We have found a used 2009 and now I'm here wanting input about this camper.  Pros, Cons. what-have-yous.  Let it fly and hit the fan.

Here's the floor plan:

p.s. There has been a Cupcake mod to the upper rear bunk.  It's no longer a bunk, now it's a shelf so an adult won't knock them self's out trying to get in or out of the lower bunk.  There is also a professional job rerouting the bunk light to the head of the lower bunk.

This one has the rear ladder to the roof, electric hitch, aluminum rims, new tires (and spare) - they are Mission's if that makes a difference, and probably a few other things I failed to mention.

That was just a matter of changing the remote to another channel besides the default.

I was one of the first Direct TV customers in my area; was with them for years; then gave me a huge run around about constant lost connections.  I told them the had 'one last chance'.  They sent a crew of SIX out.  I pointed out that the dish was pointed right through a tree;  I pointed out that when the dish was put there I pointed out that it barely cleared the tree, and the tree would grow.  The "supervisor" told me that the tree wouldn't affect the signal - it would look through the tree.  That's pure BS and I told him so at the time.  I also pointed out that the tree got wet when it rained - and the signal would NOT 'look through' the wet leaves.  They said they had 'done all they could do'.  I pointed out that they hadn't moved the dish - which was what it would take.  30 minutes after they left, it rained a little; I lost signal.  I called Direct TV and told them to cancel my service because THEY had failed to provide service.  They have begged for me to come back for YEARS.  Dish sent a crew out two days after Direct; I've had little trouble - and they have fixed the issues I've had within a few days.  Direct TV (at least the service people in my area) sucks hairy green donkey ummm wands.