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after researching these pills and knowing the side effects. thelma is doing really good so far on them -- i've decided for now, she is going to be on them for the rest of her life.  so, i looked on line to see the cost.  

the 7 pills i got from the vet (cut into quarters) were just over $10.  my go to place-  drs foster and smith has them for 19-21 CENTS each pill.  WHAT!!   :bugeyes:   120 pills for just over $20.

needless to say i have them ordered from foster/smith.  they will contact my vet and ship right to my house.  i really haven't had an animal on a med for a long time and didn't think my vet would rip me of like that.  WOW!  

our one cat was diabetic and i always bought her insulin at walmart or walgreens.  but, really - check around for better prices on stuff.  my vet will normally price match but, this is a big difference and i'm not messing around with getting him to come down.  

like i said-so far so good.  i cleaned her up with just water the other day and i haven't seen any "extra" staining.  she'll get a bath next week and that'l be a big determining factor.  but, i do think it is helping her- (a lot).       :doublebeer:

 not easy to spot.  i was told to watch for loss of appetite, restlessness or irritability and increased heart rate.  she a food hound and loss of appetite would definitely take us to the vet!  lol    they both can still see fairly well.  sometimes they don't find the treats we give them and we have to point them out to the girls.  we have added some night lights to different areas of the house which also has helped them.  but, they are aging really well.  

i'm hopeful that this drug does as it should and she (and i) can live happily.  

well, she's been on it for 24 hours and seems to be doing good.  i know it sounds kinda funny but, i've noticed she seems happier than i've seen her in a long time.  i didn't realize she didn't seem  "normal" lately.  but when you seem them change for the better you know there was an issue.  

i can't say for sure it's the pill.  but...  my thinking is that she is finally sleeping through the night and isn't being worried about her leak all night long.  so, she is in a better mood when she is awake.

i'm glad to hear there's been someone on this proin stuff and that had success, Monique.  so far we are doing good.  the biggest thing the vet said to watch for was high blood pressure.  so, i'm hoping she will be okay.

thanks Gwen and Okie.  i'll keep you posted on our (hopeful) success.  :)

i was given proin.  she will get a 1/4 tablet twice a day.  it is suppose to tighten the muscle and this will prevent leaking.  i said-how does a pill do this.  all she could tell me is it is all about the chemistry.  <<shrug>>   so, we are trying it for two weeks and will watch to make sure she doesn't have any side effects.  at about the end of the two weeks she will go to the groomer and we will have her back side all cleaned up (better than i can do) and we'll see.

first to make sure she doesn't have side effects.  so, we'll see what happens over the next 7-10 days.  

Oh, gosh.  I wish you the best at the vet's.  My bichon will be 15 on Oct. 15, and she is also developing problems.  Several years ago she had bladder surgery which seemed to correct her constant infection problems.  But she is now having trouble with her back legs.  We are increasingly having to lift her up on the bed and onto her chair, which just a few months ago she could handle easily.  

 

It seems our vet visits are becoming more frequent, and each time I'm scared to death that he will tell me he can't do anything for her.  

 

But please have faith!  If they still have the energy to bounce around, then that is a good sign!  Abby is sleeping more also, but, heck, if I were 98 (dog years) I'd sleep a lot, too!  

 

I'll say a prayer for your girls and you, and think positive thoughts.  

Okieatheart:  I know I won't complain my girls are really doing good for their age.  We have ramps (3) in the house for them to get up on the furniture.  Two of our dogs had knee issues and these have helped a lot.  

Funny, Louise started whining ( a few months back) to come up on the bed.  For some reason she wouldn't use the ramp.  I put a night light at the end of the bed by the ramp and now she uses it.  I think she just couldn't see well enough to use it at night.

Hang in there and enjoy every day. Who knows, this may be just a temporary ailment, but it has served to heighten your senses as to how important those pups are.

All luck sent your way

It should just be an age thing and we are going to the vet tonight, caveat.  They did say on the phone that they can give her something for this.  I'm concerned on what they are going to give her but, to make us both a little happier - it may be our only option.  

I always get concerned about this little stuff.  It's hard to see them age.  They are so well behaved and have taught 3 puppies how to be really good dogs.  They have also helped retrain 3-4 foster dogs.  

I'll let you know what the vet says.  Hoping it is just a minor thing that can be easily remedied.

they are becoming over the hill as old age is starting to show its ugly face with my girls.  they will be 14 in a few weeks.  

thelma is having a "leaking" issue.  from what i've read it is probably happening when she sleeps (which is fairly often).  so, this week we will be heading to the vet to see what is happening and why. i wash the covers and blankets but, soon they smell again and i'm sure it is her.

diapers aren't an option - i've had to use these on louise for bladder/kidney stones? issue and it wasn't fun. plus you need to change them really often to keep infections away.  it would just be to constant that she would need one on.

it is a common problem with dogs that have lower back issues.  she does have a weak lower back/hips and a fold in her private area that makes her lick often-i know- tmi.  in the mean time i will have to stack a bunch of blankets for her to sleep on and keep the washer going.  

it's sad to see them age but it happens.. for the most part the girls are really healthy and happy.  they have the energy and desire to do anything but they do love to sleep when they can.  so, the leak isn't a big deal except--to see what can be done.  

it really is easy to drive and park.

We bought our gc new and love it.  we use it all the time-even at home.  the fold down back seat is great for hauling "stuff".  we even have an atv trailer we haul around with it.  our cart was brand new and set up the way you see it right from club car.  we bought our cart in 2008 and are very happy with it still today.

fold down seat, long top and a volt meter? (if i have that right) for an electric cart are good things to have.  

we bought electric because it is quiet and doesn't stink.  i've also heard some folks having gas carts and their seats getting hot.

club car is also built with an aluminum frame.  

we have had 3 truck campers, a jayco seneca similar to grumpy and grandmas and now an itasca navion (by winnebago).  the truck campers worked well for us when it was just the two of us and our two cats.  but, now we don't have cats and have 4 dogs.  they are small but they do use up floor space and couch space-lol.  we "loved" our seneca.  the floor plan was perfect for us and like g&g said we like to have something in front of us. but, as most people on here know - we are always changing things up and it was time for a change.  

i won't go to anything but a driver.  i really like the fivers that are available but, i have to move 4 dogs from the truck to the camper and back when we stop for anything.  so, that being said--with a motorhome i can get up and use the bathroom, make lunch, grab snacks at anytime.  the dogs are comfortable and when we make a quick stop they can sit in the a/c (gen running) if need be.  it is tighter in the navion but the fuel mileage is around 13-14 (sometimes more and hardly ever less).  

you do have to plan to "use" what you buy.  we have bought both mh's used and got really good prices on them.  all our deals were made (phone and email) before we saw them.  but, we knew what we wanted and were willing to spend.  if the mh wasn't right-we would walk away and trust me - we have.  we try to make sure we use our navion.  the size is perfect for us to drive anywhere we want.  it is like a large van and we don't need a tow vehicle.  i have driven all of our campers (truck campers, too) and with the gc on a trailer. we just took a road trip up the michigan side of wisconsin and this coming weekend are planning to take another trip-but we don't know where.  :)   that's just how we roll.

good luck on your decision and look at everything.  we love A's but, they aren't for us.  if i couldn't have a seneca or something like my navion-i would be all over a fiver. 

we use disney transportation when we resort hop.  for one-we don't have a vehicle.  but, we're on vacation - let them do the driving!  we always go to the contemp, poly and lodge.  but, we love to go to all of them.  those are just the easiest to get to.  

we had a 20' (i believe) PJ trailer that we had the vw and golf cart on.  the cart went on at the front of the trailer (sideways) and the car behind it.  cost us about $2200.  we only needed to take the car the one time and a trailer was more practical for us to buy-as we could sell it later if we wanted and we did.  the nice thing about a trailer is that there is no wear on the vehicle.  we don't take a car with us any other time-that time we went to florida for a month and needed to have one.  a dolly like dave has, is something we considered. not sure if we would be happy with that.

but, we have decided when the time comes that we need a vehicle and the gc - we will probably pull the pick up with the gc in the bed.  

and just an fyi-- our gc has paid for it self.  we do disney once or twice a year and the cost of renting a cart vs owning one (for us) owning is the way to go.

what about-the fireworks boat ride.  someone can correct me but don't they do that.  that would be cool!

NOPE!  i can honestly say i would need alcohol delivered for a few hours before you could even think of persuading me to go out the roof and into a picker basket!!!  Ain't no way!  

last night i went up in the cab over bed in the mh and could barely figure out how to get back down.  SERIOUSLY!

Monique, you can get pizza into that freezer??   

lol-that's funny.  i would love to video our dogs when we are gone.  but, i know they sleep all day.  :)

it'll be better on day 2--i am hoping so anyway.  sleep good tonight and we'll all see you in the morning.   :hugsmiley:

great tr-so far.  i wanted to go to hershey but, the national parks weren't open (yet) when we were leaving for vacation.  looks like a good time.

kathy--i think your a little excited!!   :jumpforjoy

so glad you get to come to the fort this halloween.  it just wouldn't be the same without you guys.  i'm glad bob realized how wrong he was to deny you of this trip-he should be ashamed of himself for even thinking he shouldn't be here- :rofl2:    i'm happy you are heading down.  praying you get an offer soon.  

ed enjoy your trip!!  

we split meals all the time.  but, i have also ordered from the kids menu.  they don't know if you have kids sitting and waiting or not.  i have never had any issues.

Happy birthday kathy!  looks like a great time!  it's really cool that you guys shared the stories behind all the campers being sold to one another.  

sounds like a great rt with a lot of fiends.  so happy to hear jason is getting a pup!  i'm glad everything is working out.  drive safe cherie and mike.  

there was a chance this would work for us.  but, it's just too far east to make it work.  i keep trying -- one day we'll get to one of these gg's up here in the north. :)   hope you guys have a great time.

great tr so far.  guess we'll have to go off grounds to get our fresh bakery when we are down there.  ohhhh-wait, i can get a starbucks so why would i leave.  lol    okay---ready for more pics!

<<cough>>  sorry-yeah dave, that's it!   :rofl3:

i like to sit on the porch and watch everyone heading out to the party...  great pics!  we can always count on you to give us a dis fix.  (sigh)  wish i was there...