Thanks! All good info and ideas. Will check with one of the TA on the sponsor list. Grumpy, you have my hero's name...I am looking at my favorite mug on my desk at work right now... green with that frowning visage and "Hasn't smiled since 1937"! We lived closer to you for awhile...20 years in Ft Thomas, but moved to the "farm" (all 8 acres) 4 years ago to be closer to my work in Lex. before that, Arkansas, Mississippi, Idaho, Illinois..we have been around! I was raised in OR, CA and WY, and still have to go west for a mountain fix every few years!