CakeHenn

Wow...I wonder how long that took? Anyone ever play with Legos as a kid? I remember building a castle as a kid...probably a square foot around and maybe that tall at it's highest. It took me a couple days then my dog ran into my room, hit it, and kind of broke it...I was so pissed I never played with legos again. I've seen them in stores and wow...not cheap.

Look at the texture of the conversation...you should be able to figure it out.

The break controller and weight distributing hitch (WDH) can all be added by a RV place. And really it's not more trouble than it's worth...it's all pretty standard for anyone that tows. None of this stuff is all that complex or super expensive. You might be able to go without a WDH but the break controller is necessarily and very important. All trailers should have breaks already hooked up on them so really it's just a matter of having that controller to tell your trailer when you are breaking. I'd say even for a pop up trailer you would need a break controller. Overall RVing is not a che

Need the break controller installed in the truck...they are not too expensive and any RV shop can rig it up for you. I'd also get a weight distribution hitch and sway bar. I think you'll be ok for short trips in flat areas. You MPG is going to be terrible when towing...I'd guess between 7 and 9 MPG. When you get to the point where you are ready for a new tow vehicle you can then step up to something with more power and tow/haul capacities

I can understand this but it seems different than you point about the value of them holding up. My only point was RVs, pop ups, or whatever depreciate rapidly after you buy then new....the steepest deprecation happens the first few years and then levels off. I don't think this is groundbreaking news. With this in mind buying a used model that is 3 or 4 years old could amount to paying much much less. Obviously if you want new then go for it. What you did sounds like a great idea if you are buying new and I'd absolutely agree that money can be saved with buying the new "last year" model.

I didnt know it was an argument. You said check the ads if I don't believe you...I did just that. Sorry my results did not back up what you are saying. I don't really care one way or the other. If it makes you feel better I'll just agree with you.

I actually did look at ads...the most expensive used pop up I saw was $10.5k. This was just me checking craigslist (where mostly dealers post)...I put in "pop" in the search and looked at all 96 listings. The only amounts I saw that were more were 2013 units that I assume are new.

I was just passing on info...it's a consideration. For some it has no bearing on their decision...for others maybe it's good to know. My favorite place we ever stayed was in Port Aransas TX called Gulf Waters RV resort. All the RV spots are actually individually owned and rented out by a property manager. When we went we had our old TT that was a 2007 27'. I would not call it a big dollar RV since we bought it used for $13k. I went to their website and these are the rules that applied to RVs themselves. No pop-ups, high-lows, truck campers or tents are allowed. Hard side units only. RV a

So are you saying if someone bought a 13k or 14k pop up they could assume that they would be able to turn around and sell it for close to the same price in a year or two? I don't see it happening and that's all I'm looking at. I agree if someone buys used then they have a good chance of not losing too much on a pop up when they try to sell in a year or two but that's different than buying new.

The reason I ask...and this is taking advantage of the system but I would like to find out what the discount they offer for a AAA before I just go off and buy one and then find out that they don't offer the discount at that time. But the again I don't think its unfair to ask what discounts they have and what they are even if I'm not a member. I'm sure the clubs/associations would want them to tell you.

SO what kind of tow vehicle do you have? To me the main advantages of a pop up are that they are very small and light so you don't need a big truck to tow one...many V6 vehicles can tow them with ease. I'd probably not tow one with a 4 banger. The other advantage is because they small when not popped up they can be stored in some garages... storage is much less an issue with one vs a trailer. You can also get into some places with a pop up that you could not with bigger trailers...if that's important to you. Overall though that's about it...I asked about your vehicle because if you have s

Do they ask for your AAA account number at the time you book or do they make you show it to them when you get there?

That's good to know. For an app that's a lot but it's the "go to one" and we use it a couple times I'll be happy paying it.

I have an Iphone...what app do yall use? It looks like the "Official" app costs like 9.99. I guess it's the one associated with the most popular geocache website??

At the state parks here they have a process where you can register and get a permit to place one...it's all free but it makes sense...they don't want to put it somewhere where it could damage the grounds or whatever. There is a big city park with softball fields, walking trails, playgrounds, etc that's like a half mile from my house...I see that there are some there. I told my daughter that she needs to find some "Treasure" at the house that we can deposit into the caches. I don't know much about it but from what I gather you are suppose to take something and then also leave something. At th

Have any of you ever gone geocaching?? I've never done it but it looks like it might be a fun deal to get my kids involved with. Texas Parks and Wildlife has a TV show...I have my DVR set to always record it. In the show they spotlight many of the State Parks and stuff you can do in them. Well recently they had a segment on geocaching...I had not given it much thought...but it's basically like a treasure hunt. Well I told my 5 year old about it and then last night I showed her that segment of the show about it. She got all fired up and wants to do it soon. What's funny is this morning my

I looked on the Dutchman website...they did not have this model listed. I saw the Voltage series but not this one. Overall wow...very nice....but in this case if you are spending 72k...yeah it better be nice. That's more than double what I just spend on my trailer and I'm almost embarrassed I spend as much as I did on a pure toy. But boy are they fun! At least the entire family loves doing it.

You have a link? To pictures or anything? It does sound like ridiculous marketing but it's not like it could not be done....you would need a super stout TH and truck to pull that rig.

How much is it to join AAA?

Yeah I do agree with you Dave...when towing you can't have too much. I guess I was just saying it was too much truck if they wanted it for other things...but if it's a pure tow vehicle..then what the heck...might as well. I like to balance economy and power...since this is really only going to be used for towing then economy isnt as important.....more powerful engines can often provide more economy when towing heavier loads anyway. I'd say if you are looking to spend less than 10k on a tow vehicle then just be ready to have a few mechanical issues. I'd also echo what was said about having i

A one ton dually...way more truck than you need unless you are going to be loading down the bed with something as well or doing other towing and hauling. I'd probably go with a half ton or 3/4 ton and buy a bit newer. Is this going to be just a totally dedicate tow vehicle and not a daily driver? If so I guess it does not matter all that much.

So when you are at home do you just go outside or to a neighbors house? Obviously you don't. I look at our trailer as our second home...I paid too much for it not to use the thing. I think you are over thinking this...they don't really smell if you dump them after every trip and use some chemicals.

As far as a tow vehicle it seems based on the two choices you would do fine with a good half ton. Just make sure you get the more powerful engine option and tow package. A 3/4 ton would be overkill and an excessive expense but I've always been one that believes it's better to have too much of something and not need it than not enough and need it. Overall the toyhauler will probably be a bit more drag and your towing MPG will be lower but I doubt it will be significant enough to factor into your selection. As far as the bathroom goes...why on earth would you not use it? I mean if you are ov

Well they make a lot less of them so that's probably the answer as to why you don't see them much.

What's your tow vehicle? It's hard for me to say much based on what was given. You are looking at two very different trailers. For me the small bathroom was a real negative for our first trailer. This is kind of strange to say but no leg room when on the pot sucked which was not something I thought of when we were shopping. I guess the point is you may not really know what you want until you try one out.