Tuke 16 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Episode 105: The History of Fort Wilderness https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/unofficial-guides-disney-dish/id452620851?mt=2&i=371770487 Years ago, The Unofficial Guide's Disney Dish with Jim Hill Podcast recorded a much more thorough History of Fort Wilderness than the one linked above. I think you can still get it if you don't mind paying a few bucks. If I remember correctly, it was Episode 19. Of course, the one linked is still a very interesting summary and includes the Fort's initial planned location, size, and the means by which Fort Wilderness was constructed in the after hours with almost no budget through borrowing, bartering, and stealing from Disney offices and many Disney construction projects that were developing the larger WDW. Also, it mentions some original concepts that were never built. Hope you enjoy! BradyBzLyn...Mo and Avatab.... Steve 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AuburnJen 772 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 So is this one requiring a cost too? And what was the cost of the original? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I clicked on the link, it took me to a page where it said subscribe, but then this episode was highlighted, so I clicked on it and it started playing. Haven't listened to all of it, so it may cut off and say subscribe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdm 47 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 It plays through with no cost. Its an interesting story, wish they would do a video so you can SEE the drawings and locations they are talking about. Sounds like there will be a part 2 to this podcast in the near future. BTW the original Walt Idea for the hoop-de-doo review sounded amazing with all the different areas and changing stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avatab.... Steve 124 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 If you have ITunes on your computer you can subscribe for free. ITunes is also a free download. Most podcasts are free at least for the first week or two after they are released. It's a wealth of information, I download a bunch of different ones before a long drive or to listen to while mowing, etc. There is every topic imaginable, including several on RVing and Camping. Just don't start buying music, that's when it can get expensive... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AuburnJen 772 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Oh I have ITunes, they take lots of my money. I just read it weird. It sounded to me like there was a cost to the subscription and I was lazy and didn't want to look at the moment, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avatab.... Steve 124 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Nope, no cost. I just listened to that episode and a couple of others from the same source. BTW, I thought it was interesting that the podcast states that Walt originally wanted TWO campgrounds at WDW and that he proposed River Country as an add-on to the Fort and NOT as a stand-alone park. Apparently he wanted to have something novel and fun to sell to the campers (and extract some of the extra dollars they were saving by camping). I know Jim Hill has a reputation for playing fast and loose with facts, but I still thought it was a very interesting show, especially, as Tuke said above, the part about the Fort being a forgotten note on a napkin until it was almost too late.... Sounds like the Fort has been an afterthought at WDW since Day One! They also said that they had to immediately double the size of the Fort because of the unexpected demand. It must have been something to have been there when new loops were opening just as fast as they could build them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tuke 16 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yes, the current one listed is a recent episode and free; however, Episode 19 is no longer listed in the podcasts app/itunes. It too can be streamed for free (I think) from disneydish.bandcamp.com but you will need a subscription for download. Episode 19 spends more time on the Fort and goes into much more detail on the construction, immediately recognized problem with FW guest not entering the park, design, Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue, etc. What I really like about this Podcasts is their informative and less than "sugar coated" reflections of Disney history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avatab.... Steve 124 Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 On 7/30/2016 at 0:55 PM, bdm said: It plays through with no cost. Its an interesting story, wish they would do a video so you can SEE the drawings and locations they are talking about. Sounds like there will be a part 2 to this podcast in the near future. BTW the original Walt Idea for the hoop-de-doo review sounded amazing with all the different areas and changing stage. I am also looking forward to Part 2 of this. They also mention that when they were scraping together men and material to get the Fort built that they "re-appropriated" stuff from all over WDW (even taking desks and file cabinets at night from the Legal Dept! ) and then they would hide things in the swamp near FW to be used later at the Fort as needed. Made me wonder if that's where those two mine cars came from and how they wound up lost in the woods.... ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mouseketab.....Carol 1,261 Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Avatab.... Steve said: I am also looking forward to Part 2 of this. They also mention that when they were scraping together men and material to get the Fort built that they "re-appropriated" stuff from all over WDW (even taking desks and file cabinets at night from the Legal Dept! ) and then they would hide things in the swamp near FW to be used later at the Fort as needed. Made me wonder if that's where those two mine cars came from and how they wound up lost in the woods.... ? I think we already figured out the mine cars were acquired when Big Thunder Mountain Railroad was built, which was much later than 1971. There were brought over for the Wilderness Lodge build and got lost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdm 47 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 On 8/1/2016 at 10:14 AM, Avatab.... Steve said: Made me wonder if that's where those two mine cars came from and how they wound up lost in the woods.... ? mine cars in the woods?? WHAT? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BradyBzLyn...Mo 2,023 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 hour ago, bdm said: mine cars in the woods?? WHAT? Yep. This... Keep reading through, the mystery of what they are was solved, although no one still knows why they were there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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