bdelia-shea

Golf Cart, Wagon, and ECV...Oh My!

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Greetings all! I will be at the fort in a little over a week (4/1 - 4/8). We will probably be in the 100 loop. Feel free to find the Fleetwood Storm and say hi!

The group consists of 2 kids (7 and 5), their mother who has MS, their father (me) who is out of shape, their maternal grandmother who cannot walk long distances, and their paternal grandfather who had knee reconstruction. We are a sorry lot. We are bringing the golf cart to get around the fort. We also have a wheelchair for shared use and an ECV for the grandmother.

I know ECVs are not allowed on the fort main roads. I also know wagons are not allowed in the parks. However, can I disassemble the ECV and put it in the wagon to tow behind the golf cart (like a trailer)? This would be the fastest way to get around, but I don't want to break the rules. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

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25 minutes ago, bdelia-shea said:

Greetings all! I will be at the fort in a little over a week (4/1 - 4/8). We will probably be in the 100 loop. Feel free to find the Fleetwood Storm and say hi!

The group consists of 2 kids (7 and 5), their mother who has MS, their father (me) who is out of shape, their maternal grandmother who cannot walk long distances, and their paternal grandfather who had knee reconstruction. We are a sorry lot. We are bringing the golf cart to get around the fort. We also have a wheelchair for shared use and an ECV for the grandmother.

I know ECVs are not allowed on the fort main roads. I also know wagons are not allowed in the parks. However, can I disassemble the ECV and put it in the wagon to tow behind the golf cart (like a trailer)? This would be the fastest way to get around, but I don't want to break the rules. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Welcome!

You can read the official golf cart/vehicle rules here: https://wdpromedia.disney.go.com/media/wdpro-assets/places-to-stay/cabins-at-fort-wilderness/Vehicles_Carts_and_Recreational_Devices_Rules_and_Regulations.pdf

I don't see anything that says no trailers (or wagons) behind golf carts, but I have heard that repeated as a rule verbally.

I've seen people tow stuff behind a golf cart before.  Looking at the rules, I think you'd be OK.

TCD

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There are also sidewalks where you can ride the EVC.

I'll be there the same time! Say hi if you see our sign.

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I went and hunted down an old thread (from 2013) where we discussed the towing behind a golf cart issue, and I found it (click below - there is some discussion about the rules and documents in that post):

 

TCD

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Here's another old thread where a Fiend used some colorful language to share her experience with being told she could not tow and ECV behind her golf cart:

TCD

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TCD - thank you for providing those links!

GaDawgFan - a great suggestion, which I appreciate! I am always looking for ways to save money. Rather than pay $$ to rent an ECV, I went on Craigslist locally, and bought one for $100. Good investment! Because of this, I don't know the exact state of the battery. For days we are going to non-MK parks, I want to conserve battery power. We will most likely be in the 100 loop and I would rather take the golf cart than wait for internal buses.

On a side note, the wagon I plan on using is collapsible, so it will fold up and store on the golf cart while we are in the parks, so not taking up additional parking room. Also, by padlocking it to the steering wheel of the golf cart, it will act as an anti-theft deterrent for the golf cart (not that I'm too worried about this).

I think I will type up something to the effect of "Towing of a trailer behind a golf cart is not against any rules at Fort Wilderness" and see if I can get a Fort Manager to sign off on it. That way, all bases are covered. Not trying to be a jerk or smart-a... Just trying to avoid any foreseeable trouble. Feel free to chime in with any other thoughts!

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Don't forget that all of the Disney buses, including the internal Fort lines, handle wheelchairs and ECV's so if you have a specific destination you could always split up with one group using the cart and the other taking the bus.

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Over the years, I've seen plenty turn around and 'tow' things. Including people. I think you're safe.

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I saw one of those futuristic looking golf carts/city cars towing a similar looking trailer.  The cart had 3 rows of seats and the trailer had another 3.  The thing was longer than my truck, and it went flying down the path next to the tennis courts heading to the campfire program.

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On 3/24/2017 at 7:14 AM, bdelia-shea said:

TCD - thank you for providing those links!

GaDawgFan - a great suggestion, which I appreciate! I am always looking for ways to save money. Rather than pay $$ to rent an ECV, I went on Craigslist locally, and bought one for $100. Good investment! Because of this, I don't know the exact state of the battery. For days we are going to non-MK parks, I want to conserve battery power. We will most likely be in the 100 loop and I would rather take the golf cart than wait for internal buses.

On a side note, the wagon I plan on using is collapsible, so it will fold up and store on the golf cart while we are in the parks, so not taking up additional parking room. Also, by padlocking it to the steering wheel of the golf cart, it will act as an anti-theft deterrent for the golf cart (not that I'm too worried about this).

I think I will type up something to the effect of "Towing of a trailer behind a golf cart is not against any rules at Fort Wilderness" and see if I can get a Fort Manager to sign off on it. That way, all bases are covered. Not trying to be a jerk or smart-a... Just trying to avoid any foreseeable trouble. Feel free to chime in with any other thoughts!

You can get brand new batteries for the cart for around $100. Any auto place can and will test them for free.

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On 3/24/2017 at 8:14 AM, bdelia-shea said:

Also, by padlocking it to the steering wheel of the golf cart, it will act as an anti-theft deterrent for the golf cart (not that I'm too worried about this).

The only time we've ever had a problem with our golf cart going missing is when the other half of our group decided they wanted our parking spot and moved my cart farther away. Haha

 

I wouldn't think that you'd have any problem towing the wagon as long as no one is riding in it. 

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Made it! The only comments we got were, "Why didn't I think of that?"

If you saw an old, slow golf cart with 6 people, a wheelchair, and a red wagon with a disassembled ecv in it this past week, that was me!

In case others want to use this idea in the future, the wagon handle went over the backseat handrail. Also, the wagon is collapsible, so it was stored on the cart when not in use. I will add some pictures later.

I also had fun surprising people by using the golf cart's turn signals. That got some great reactions!

Thank you all for the feedback and ideas!

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8 minutes ago, bdelia-shea said:

Made it! The only comments we got were, "Why didn't I think of that?"

If you saw an old, slow golf cart with 6 people, a wheelchair, and a red wagon with a disassembled ecv in it this past week, that was me!

In case others want to use this idea in the future, the wagon handle went over the backseat handrail. Also, the wagon is collapsible, so it was stored on the cart when not in use. I will add some pictures later.

I also had fun surprising people by using the golf cart's turn signals. That got some great reactions!

Thank you all for the feedback and ideas!

Glad you'll had no problems.  I can't wait for the pictures.   I am thinking of stealing your idea. But instead of an ecv on it I want to put my ice chest on it.  When we go to the marina the ice chest goes on the back seat so we can only get 2 adults and a child on the front seat. 

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On ‎4‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 10:01 AM, Tri-Circle-D said:

Thanks for reporting back!  Glad to know that your plan worked.

Did you end up getting the 100 loop?

TCD

We did! Ended up at site 115. Right across from the walking path to the marina/store, which is exactly what I wanted. Not easy to back in to (but I knew that since I have the FW Sites app). Ended up backing the golf cart off the trailer and removing the trailer before backing in. Next time, we will use the hitch/unhitch area to remove the golf cart and have someone meet us at the site!

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1 hour ago, bdelia-shea said:

We did! Ended up at site 115. Right across from the walking path to the marina/store, which is exactly what I wanted. Not easy to back in to (but I knew that since I have the FW Sites app). Ended up backing the golf cart off the trailer and removing the trailer before backing in. Next time, we will use the hitch/unhitch area to remove the golf cart and have someone meet us at the site!

That's awesome that you got that site.  Perfect location for your needs.

I'm glad it all worked out for you, and you are already figuring out how to do it better next time.  That's how Fiends roll.

TCD

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On ‎4‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 8:37 AM, h2odivers...Ray said:

Glad you'll had no problems.  I can't wait for the pictures.   I am thinking of stealing your idea. But instead of an ecv on it I want to put my ice chest on it.  When we go to the marina the ice chest goes on the back seat so we can only get 2 adults and a child on the front seat. 

As promised, here are some pics.

First, we have the golf cart on its trailer to bring it down. This is a 4 x 8 trailer I purchased used, but is available (unassembled) from Harbor Freight for around $400. Since the cart sticks off the back a little, I chose not to use a traditional hinged gate ramp. Instead, the sides come off and are the loading ramps (I used clevis pins with cotter pins to lock them in place so they are easily removable). Additionally, the height of the legs is intentional. When the ramps are in place, I use the clevis pins with a steel plate to keep the ramps from moving (apart or together). That red box on the seat is the collapsible wagon (we had to pack everywhere since the first part of our journey was in a minivan).

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Here we are unloading the golf cart at the Fort! The chain was to keep the cart from being stolen since we had a long trip with an overnight stop in a rest area. The straps are what held everything in place.

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Here we are with the wagon attached. I just lowered the handle of the wagon over the grab bar of the cart. If you notice in the first picture, there is actually a handle attached. Funny story. You'll have to read the trip report when I get it up... You can see the mobility cart and wheelchair under the canopy in the background.

I love the instant canopies! They serve as a garage and are great if there is any rain. Chargers store under cover, as does the cart at night.

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Here we are loaded up and ready to go!

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It was a little crowded, but hey, we got 6 people plus all needed accessories. By later in the week, we also started putting the backpack in the wagon. Tried the wheelchair, but just couldn't get it to stay.

As I stated before, I like this type of wagon because when we got to the parking, it folded up and stored in the front of the cart with no issues. Hope this helps!

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Thanks for sharing the photos!

That trailer looks a little rickety to be towing a golf cart on a highway.  I wish our old friend Larry was here to analyze it. The big smile on Grandma's face is all you need to see to know that it was worth all the effort. Glad it all worked out for you! 

TCD

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Glad it all worked out for you.   I love the collapsing wagon idea.   I was thinking I needed something fancy or custom to pull my ice chest in.  But I love the simplicity of just hooking the handle over the grab bar.   My cart has a T- handle so I'll have to figure out how to simple hook a wagon on. Maybe I'll weld on some sort of hook or hitch.  Thanks for the inspiration. 

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16 hours ago, Tri-Circle-D said:

Thanks for sharing the photos!

That trailer looks a little rickety to be towing a golf cart on a highway.  I wish our old friend Larry was here to analyze it. The big smile on Grandma's face is all you need to see to know that it was worth all the effort. Glad it all worked out for you! 

TCD

WWLD!  Lol  

Do you think larry would be concerned about pushing the carrying capacity of the trailer?   

To me it looks like its constructed like our jet ski trailer. Small tires, smaller axle. But it obliviously can do the job.    I personally don't like using a trailer with little tires. I just don't trust them. Even though I have never had a problem with mine. It's a mental thing. 

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1 hour ago, h2odivers...Ray said:

WWLD!  Lol  

Do you think larry would be concerned about pushing the carrying capacity of the trailer?   

To me it looks like its constructed like our jet ski trailer. Small tires, smaller axle. But it obliviously can do the job.    I personally don't like using a trailer with little tires. I just don't trust them. Even though I have never had a problem with mine. It's a mental thing. 

Bigger is better?  :lol:

 

It's a mental thing..... we all suffer from that.  

After all, we go to an overpriced campground and pay $$$ to get pushed and shoved in an overcrowded theme park!

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The trailer is on the small side. No question about that! It is pretty solid construction, though. Has a weight capacity of around 1,200 lbs (cart weighs in around 900 with batteries). The main problem I ran into is that it towed behind the motorhome in a tongue-up position. I have since ordered an adjustable drop hitch so that will no longer be an issue.

Also, I have a different trailer that I usually use - 8 x 20 that holds cart, bikes, canopy tent, and other various items. However, there is no way my minivan would pull that (it barely pulls the trailer empty).

As for the tires, they are highway rated, but I may look into beefing them up to car tires in the future depending on how often I use it.

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