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disneylitch......Debbie

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  1. 22 hours ago, Avatab.... Steve said:

     

    As far as the Phantom Campers, I don't agree that we have to accept that. There are two things driving the Phantom Camper problem:

    1. Booking a site at the Fort is (usually) cheaper than any other room option on Disney property. And like all on-property "rooms", a campsite comes with all the perks.

    2. Unlike hotel rooms, A campsite allows you to get those perks for up to 10 unrelated people.

    Combine those two and you get why they do it. It is the cheapest way per-person to get Disney On-property perks for your Off-property group.

    I believe that with a little thought, you could do a carrot/stick approach to address the issue.

    Now, If it was up to me, I would recommend changing or altering the number of people allowed per-campsite policy.  Not only is it being abused by the Phantom Campers, but it is also routinely abused by large groups that cram way too many people, cars, tents, loudspeakers, golf-carts, etc etc onto one or two campsites and in doing that they end up bothering everyone around them.....

    I know, I know, most big families or groups don't abuse the policy, but enough do to make it a constant complaint at the Fort. (How many pictures of overcrowded sites have we seen right here at FF?)

    Here's my suggestion:  All groups of unrelated people (Scouts, Church groups, Social groups,etc) should be required to use the Group Sites, or Rent an entire loop.

    And for families, do what practically every other campground does:  2 adults, 4 children per site.  Allow extra adults or children, but only with an extra charge or require them to rent another site.

    If you reduce the attraction and enforce the rules, the problems created by Large Groups, either Phantom or Real, will greatly diminish.

     

    I do not have a problem with 10 people per site.  When we visit the fort, we sometimes have 4 adults and 3 children.  With the cost of a site, adding on an additional charge for more than 2 adults will get costly.  In general, I don't think overcrowded sites are the problem, underage golf cart driving is a huge problem.  When we were at the fort at Christmas, we encountered an underage golf cart driver.  We asked her age and her parents, sitting at their site, told us it was none of our business.  I told them that as long as I was paying to stay at the fort, it was my business.  In another instance, we were almost run over by a golf cart driven by an adult trying to find a parking space.  This is an even bigger problem then large parties.  A large group doesn't usually pose a threat to other campers.

  2. We were supposed to be there over Memorial but had to change our plants to May 8 to May 21.  Our son in law completes DI school at Parris Island and they were supposed to have a house the beginning of April, but they will get their house May 31.  So, we can't be 2 places at one time.  We will be there again June 10 to June 15 for our granddaughters 5th birthday.  Is anyone going over Labor Day?  We are getting our dates together now.  Our AP's expire in September, so we are getting the most out of them this year.  With fuel prices being lower, we are able to visit more often.

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