Memphis 105 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Our DD and granddaughter who have moved out of state was spending some time with us unexpectedly this weekend. So Saturday morning about 930 I was trying to think of something special to do together and I looked on whim to see if anything was showing available at the Fort. Well low and behold there was a premium site available. Now we usually stay in a partial hook up site to save money but I pitched the idea and 3 1/2 hours later we are pulling into the fort for a one night stay. I have long suspected that the reservation system pushed the premium sites and this trip proved it. After setting up we did a little looping and there were over 40 sites empty in the 2000 loop and a couple in the 1500 as well as several of all the other levels of sites. So I looked at reservations again and played around with the dates and if I wanted to book 4 days or more there was every kind of site available. It stinks that Disney forces you to pay for a premium site when others are available. But we had a nice weekend and got to spend some extra time with our DD and GD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
momof3kids-Yvonne 594 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Glad you had a good time. Hate that you were forced to pay more than you wanted to for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GaDawgFan.....Kelly 799 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Not surprised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveInTN 3,247 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Stories like this are why I have started the Dead Mouse Society. Membership is free to all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
momof3kids-Yvonne 594 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Stories like this are why I have started the Dead Mouse Society. Membership is free to all.Please do not tell Steve about the Dead Mouse Society. I finally have him convinced to go back to the Mouse. It has been five years since our last trip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveInTN 3,247 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Please do not tell Steve about the Dead Mouse Society. I finally have him convinced to go back to the Mouse. It has been five years since our last trip. :smug: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
disneylitch......Debbie 61 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 When you get to The Fort, can you ask them to check for any other available openings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Our DD and granddaughter who have moved out of state was spending some time with us unexpectedly this weekend. So Saturday morning about 930 I was trying to think of something special to do together and I looked on whim to see if anything was showing available at the Fort. Well low and behold there was a premium site available. Now we usually stay in a partial hook up site to save money but I pitched the idea and 3 1/2 hours later we are pulling into the fort for a one night stay. I have long suspected that the reservation system pushed the premium sites and this trip proved it. After setting up we did a little looping and there were over 40 sites empty in the 2000 loop and a couple in the 1500 as well as several of all the other levels of sites. So I looked at reservations again and played around with the dates and if I wanted to book 4 days or more there was every kind of site available. It stinks that Disney forces you to pay for a premium site when others are available. But we had a nice weekend and got to spend some extra time with our DD and GD. Is it possible the vacant sites were booked by the folks who advocate the "throw away" campsite reservation? TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Momof6....aka Marty 769 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Is it possible the vacant sites were booked by the folks who advocate the "throw away" campsite reservation? TCDIt's possible, though i would assume they would try to book a cheaper weeknight, rather than a weekend. Then again, if they are arriving on a Friday and want to have FP+ booked over the weekend, they might reserve a campsite for Friday night. As long as staying off-site, plus booking one night at the campground is cheaper than staying on-site, people will use the loophole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Memphis 105 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Is it possible the vacant sites were booked by the folks who advocate the "throw away" campsite reservation? TCDI have a hard time believing there are that many but even so where do the sites come from that show up when I asked for 4 days? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I have a hard time believing there are that many but even so where do the sites come from that show up when I asked for 4 days? That's a good point. So, your theory that the empty sites are there because Disney would rather leave those sites vacant and force folks to pay for premium sites holds water. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Now to further muddy the water. That "other" FB site had someone post a question. "Can an RV/TT be placed on a partial site?" Snippy answers started flying! When you book, it says that you do not get a sewer hook-up, so I guess that should discourage the big boy campers from booking those sites, especially since the Fort doesn't have a dump station. I've seen Hybrids and smallish TTs in the 1500 loop, just like I've seen tents, PUPS, and teardrops in Full loops. So are there any "rules" prohibiting an RV or larger TT from booking a partial site? One of the comebacks to that question, was that some of the sites in the 2000 loop are larger than full sites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Memphis 105 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 You know the reservations site does not show what we call partial hook up sites. It shows them as Tent or Pop up sites. I am sure I have read on Disney's site that only tents, pop ups, truck and van campers are allowed. But Disneys server was down just now when I tried to look it up. However, I have seen TT, class A, and even a school bus in the 2000 loop. Forgot to mention that even though 2000 loop was only 1/3 full there was still a jerk playing loud music with 4 cars on the site and 15 bikes laying in the road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Glad you had a good time. Hate that you were forced to pay more than you wanted to for it. ^this^ Now to further muddy the water. That "other" FB site had someone post a question. "Can an RV/TT be placed on a partial site?" Snippy answers started flying! When you book, it says that you do not get a sewer hook-up, so I guess that should discourage the big boy campers from booking those sites, especially since the Fort doesn't have a dump station. I've seen Hybrids and smallish TTs in the 1500 loop, just like I've seen tents, PUPS, and teardrops in Full loops. So are there any "rules" prohibiting an RV or larger TT from booking a partial site? One of the comebacks to that question, was that some of the sites in the 2000 loop are larger than full sites. Last year, we had our hybrid and stayed in the 1500 loop for one trip. We fit just fine. Was not crowded at all. No sewer of course (which we knew), but that just meant that we washed fewer dishes and used the bathhouse more. Having said that... our TT is about 5 feet longer than the hybrid was (with the ends open) and I don't know that I would want to try and fit in there. When we booked our site, they knew we had a hybrid. a jerk playing loud music with 4 cars on the site and 15 bikes laying in the road. I hate hearing that.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AuburnJen 772 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Is it possible the vacant sites were booked by the folks who advocate the "throw away" campsite reservation? TCDthat would have been my first guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BradyBzLyn...Mo 2,023 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 So are there any "rules" prohibiting an RV or larger TT from booking a partial site? This is one of those things that seems to fall into the "call 5 times and get 5 different answers" category. Many of us have seen hybrids and even small MH in the partial hookups, but I've also heard of people being told by Disney they can't do that. And while there probably are a few sites in there that are bigger than the full hookups there are also a lot of sites where bigger campers wouldn't fit. Seems like people mostly ask this question when trying to snag reservations over the really busy periods like holidays, when nothing else shows as available. With the way sites are assigned and requests aren't guaranteed, and as full as the Fort gets over weekends/holidays, if I had a MH or bigger TT, I wouldn't want to take the chance of snagging a partial hookup, only to show up and find that I can't fit in the site and there aren't any others available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Says tent or pop-up campsite. Has a picture of a Disney tent on it. What's funny is that for the preferred campsite picture shows a Disney tent set up also, no TT/RV. I just got off a live chat with someone on the reservation site that didn't understand what a travel trailer was, and asked me to wait a few Minnie moments while they checked to see if I was allowed to put one on a tent/pop up site. The response was yes since I knew it was only going to be a partial hook up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I just got off a live chat with someone on the reservation site that didn't understand what a travel trailer was, Classic. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 So next thing you know, someone with an RV on a budget will want to have a site in the 1500 loop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 So next thing you know, someone with an RV on a budget will want to have a site in the 1500 loop! It already happens. I've seen Class A's, Class C's and Travel Trailers in both the 1500 and 2000 loops many times. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ependydad...Doug 176 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wait, will my 42'er fit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveInTN 3,247 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Rules are for fools. I say do whatever the hell you want. If Disney isn't going to enforce them, why should I worry about them? Next time I camp at the Fort, I'm parking my RV in the 15 minute Meadows trading post parking for the week, and letting Anna drive the golf cart wherever the heck she feels like driving it. And don't even think about telling me I can't....that wouldn't be very magical. keith_h and Tri-Circle-D 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Next time I camp at the Fort, I'm parking my RV in the 15 minute Meadows trading post parking for the week, and letting Anna drive the golf cart wherever the heck she feels like driving it. Shotgun! TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GaDawgFan.....Kelly 799 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Shotgun! TCD Way back! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ependydad...Doug 176 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Rules are for fools. I say do whatever the hell you want. If Disney isn't going to enforce them, why should I worry about them? Next time I camp at the Fort, I'm parking my RV in the 15 minute Meadows trading post parking for the week, and letting Anna drive the golf cart wherever the heck she feels like driving it. And don't even think about telling me I can't....that wouldn't be very magical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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