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fladogfan aka Gretchen

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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to keith_h in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Talking releases aerosols and yes so does breathing. While the size of the droplets and distance traveled can vary it doesn't change the fact that any activity involving the expulsion of air from the lungs will create aerosols.
    There was a time that quarantines were quite common in this country and the rest of the world. I'm old enough to remember a time before vaccinations and seeing things like measles outbreaks handled by quarantines. I can even recall a childhood friend whose father was arrested for breaking quarantine and showing up at work. The main reason the use of wide spread shutdowns and quarantines are in place is because of the inability to identify those that are infected and the people they have been in contact with. Improving this ability would allow us to do like we have in the past and that is limit the use of quarantine to smaller groups who have contracted the disease or had contact with people who have the disease. We can't hang all of our hopes on an effective vaccine that might not ever arrive or that once a person has had the disease they have long term immunity. in concert with these efforts we  need to expend energy on controlling the spread with as little intrusion into life as possible. This means we have to be able to improve detection of asymptomatic people and have better contact tracing as without that nothing much will change.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in Hamilton Film Coming to Disney+ July 3   
    I just sent this to my family.
    My wife won a pair of the $10 lottery for tickets last year and we saw it in Tampa.
    We were shocked when we walked into the theater figuring we had nose bleed seats.
    Everyone that won the lottery tickets sat in the FRONT ROW!
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Done...
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to BradyBzLyn...Mo in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Toilet paper, sanitizing wipes, bleach, flour, yeast and any kind of meat.
    Annnnnnnd...... go!
     

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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to PGHFiend in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Because there is no cure. The flu has many treatment options.  It's a pandemic, its temporary and I'm surprised by your fear. 
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to BradyBzLyn...Mo in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    I'm not arguing government mandates in people's individual communities here - that's not what we were even talking about.  The mask requirement at Costco or Disney or any other private company is not coming down from the government. As for the whole "stop being a scared sheep who believes the hype" thing... I'm not touching that argument in an internet forum with a 10' socially-distanced pole. People can decide for themselves who/what sources of information they think are credible enough to believe and what level of caution is appropriate for them and their family, and proceed accordingly. And while I certainly don't know everything (or even close), I do know that I will never convince someone to change their mind or consider another point of view by typing on a keyboard.
    What I do believe is that a bazillion dollar corporation like Disney is not sacrificing hundreds of millions of dollars of their bottom line because they're buying into any sort of hype of unfounded fear.  If they made all their business decisions based on popular opinion or social media, plenty of ideas they've put in place over the years never would have made it off the drawing board. 
    My point here was just to say that if a private company tells you that you must do XYZ to enter their establishment (shirts, shoes, masks, whatever...), that is their right, just as it is ours to choose whether or not to go there and abide by their rules. You can boycott them if you like, also your choice/right. No one is entitled to access to Disney.
     
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Obviously you feel strongly about this situation as an anti-mask and getting life back to normal side.
    And others feel just as strongly supporting the wearing of a mask and erring on the side of caution.
    Carrying this thread on without it being directly related to Disney isn't going to do anyone any good and end up causing hurt feelings.
    If Disney says masks on and someone doesn't want to wear one, then they don't have to go. 
    Same as people saying that Disney is too $$$, if you don't want to pay don't go.
    And Disney will need to enforce their rules (whatever they decide on).
     
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Tri-Circle-D in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Holy crap.
    This is just as bad as the comments on the Disney Parks Blog.
    What a sad state of affairs. So many people brainwashed by those currently in charge to disregard science and even common sense. 
     
    Disney would be crazy to try to open theme parks in this atmosphere.  
     
    TCD
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    They can purchase the official flexible Drinking Around the World Straw (DAWS) for the low low price of $19.99 so they sip and stroll with masks still on.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen got a reaction from djsamuel in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Bet a lot of the rules following, mask wearing guests will be all too happy to report non-mask wearers.  We just need Disney to follow up on their rules.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to djsamuel in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    This is the key.  Disney needs to increase security and more importantly, finally give the them the ability to enforce the rules.  I have friends who are in security and often the path taken is to minimize disruption to the gust rather than strictly enforcing the rules.  That is what needs to change with this.  If you won't wear a face mask they escort you out of the park; no second chance.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to BradyBzLyn...Mo in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    There have been multiple cases like that at Costco after they implemented their new policy; not to mention the case at a Family Dollar store where a security guard that was shot and killed. All over people being told they needed to wear a mask to shop at a private company.
    I don't understand why people are losing their damned minds over what amounts to temporary measures intended to keep us all safe, including (and maybe especially) the people showing up to work in these places - which right now amounts to risking your health for the sake of your job.
    You don't see people flipping out and screaming obscenities at employees over "no shirt, no shoes, no service" policies.  Right now companies are just asking that, for the time being at least, in addition to your shirt and shoes, you put on a mask.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Beckers in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    A girl I follow on IG went to Shanghai Disneyland today and she was highlighting all the people not following the spacing etc. some times people were but a lot of times they weren’t. There’s no way people here will follow the rules. 
    However in NJ if you want to get into a fight take your mask off in a store and watch the people freak out 😂
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to BradyBzLyn...Mo in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    I'm going to keep my nice, peaceful Monday morning intact and not read the comments, but based on the craziness I see on social media in general, I can very well imagine what they are.
    But hey, it's a heckuva lot easier to keep capacity down if a bunch of people take themselves out of the running!
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Duane in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Hey for us campers, its pretty easy...  Night before last, I loaded up the wife, daughter and her roommate into the motor home and drove the 15 miles from our house to Bonefish Grill to eat.
    We had the parking lot to ourselves, where I found a place out of the way so as not to impede on the other takeout diners.  I dropped the levelers, extended the large slideout and one of the smaller ones, and we enjoyed a nice meal that was still warm when we got it.  It had begun to sprinkle rain and wind was starting to pick up, but we were high, dry, and filled when we left.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to BradyBzLyn...Mo in It's back open!   
    Somehow I don't think this guy is either.   But something, actually quite a few things, in this story just don't add up -
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/disney-world-trespass-suspect-viewed-discovery-island-as-tropical-paradise-authorities-say

    "A man arrested at Disney World in Florida last week for attempting to quarantine from the coronavirus on Discovery Island viewed the small park-owned island as a "tropical paradise," authorities say."

    So he somehow knew the island was there and was a "tropical paradise" but didn't know that it's WDW private property and has been for more than 50 years?

    "A Disney security representative said she asked the agency to press charges after she saw McGuire using a company boat to get to the island."

    Do they leave the keys in all the boats? And supposedly they caught him sleeping in a building and he'd been out there for a couple/few days, but Disney security saw him take the boat out there. So they waited a day or two before bothering to investigate?

    And then there's this...
    "Suspect Richard McGuire, 42, told Orange County Sheriff's deputies he had been on the island since Monday or Tuesday and had planned to camp there for a week"

    Um... he doesn't know if he got there Monday or Tuesday?
     
    As our Snarky leader frequently says, things that make you go hmmmm.....
     
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in Florida State Parks reopen Monday   
    Not sure about State parks (non camping activities) but some county parks are opening for hiking non contact activities etc, but the bathrooms will not be open.
    That will cut down on the amount of time people spend there!
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Katman1356...Jason in Virtual Grand Gathering: Updated! We gather again!   
    Yes tonight. I will post a link in here when I have it set up and ready this evening. 
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to YENSIDCAMPER in Hope you all got your APs before today!! 6/18   
    Well, I think DIT meant it.  Word is he sold his camper too.  I wonder if Disney will reduce pricing now that not many can afford these prices and many will be too afraid to go into a crowded park?
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Grumpy and Grandma in Not even a global pandemic can kill the ever-expanding Disney Vacation Club REFLECTIONS UPDATE   
    DISNEY is probably no different than the State of FL, projects continue especially since they can do them without having to  worry about guests in the parks. The Governor ordered increased constuction on I-4 since the traffic flow is reduced.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen got a reaction from Katman1356...Jason in Virtual Grand Gathering: Updated! We gather again!   
    Sounds interesting.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Grumpy and Grandma in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Construction contimues.
    Grandma and I just got back from a ride, stayed in the car, and construction continues at the new College Program Dorms, the garage (or whaever it is ) at Fantasia Golf and several other sites that we could see.  One day next week we will drive over by DHS and see if there is still activity at the new Resort.
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in UPDATE 4/2 Disney really has no clue what to expect, but neither does anyone else   
    But it still hasn't stopped the flood of FB posts asking when the parks will open, and the others whining because they miss Disney soooo much and can't stand not being there.
    I like Disney also, but geez folks get a life!  Be happy you and your family are safe, don't have the virus,  have food, a place to live, a job and TP!
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    fladogfan aka Gretchen reacted to Travisma in WDW Closings due to COVID19   
    Well the Star Wars hotel is a lot further along then Reflections so if they stopped that I would guess we will be seeing construction fences for a long long time.
     
    What about the new horse barn?
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