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I live a hop, skip and jump from Kings Island. I've been once and that was enough for me. My youngest who is 10 has never been there. He would rather save up for a trip to Disney every other year than go there.

We used to live behind Kings Island! Could watch the fireworks every night! And I worked there as a life guard through high school! Still have family in the area but we are in central Kentucky now.

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I think most (sensible) spreadsheet folk (like me) put together a spreadsheet-o-fun just to pass away the hours, days, weeks, months that come before the actual trip. You'd vomit over my color-coded

We will be in Cedar Poiny July16-19, although it's not Disney we do like the campground and deal with the lines for some great coasters!!!!!!

The campground at Cedar Point is pretty awesome isn't it!!

We used to live behind Kings Island! Could watch the fireworks every night! And I worked there as a life guard through high school! Still have family in the area but we are in central Kentucky now.

I have family in Lexington and southern Kentucky [by marriage]

It is cool how we can all find connections within being a Fiend.

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We live near Cedar Point. It's all the rage here to go. I've gone a few times and am MORE than frustrated when I get stuck waiting for close to an hour for a 2 minute ride. :faceplant2: Just not the same waiting for a ride when there is NOTHING clever to look at, listen to, or watch while you wait. :gaah:

I'd rather travel 1200 miles, spend more, and enjoy the Disney that Disney does SO well! :stars-shower-smiley:

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You either get it, or you don't. There is something magical about Disney. But I believe there are people in this world that don't have "magic receptors". They are incapable of feeling magic. Heck, I think they are incapable of enjoyment. Some people just need to be miserable.

Also, like stated earlier, there are also those that have a bad Disney experience because they run from pillar to post all day then go collapse into bed in their hotel, and get up the next morning and do it again. They feel stressed about needing to "get it all in", that they don't really enjoy any of it. Kinda sad, really. And then they go home from vacation and tell everyone "never again!".

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They feel stressed about needing to "get it all in", that they don't really enjoy any of it.

Correctomundo David. There are so many small experiences that people skip over at WDW.

If you get around to doing everything, fine. If you don't, they'll be another trip.

I know it's hard to believe, but there are things that I haven't done at every park. In fact we're going over to MK to get caught up on a few tomorrow.

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You either get it, or you don't. There is something magical about Disney. But I believe there are people in this world that don't have "magic receptors". They are incapable of feeling magic. Heck, I think they are incapable of enjoyment. Some people just need to be miserable.

Also, like stated earlier, there are also those that have a bad Disney experience because they run from pillar to post all day then go collapse into bed in their hotel, and get up the next morning and do it again. They feel stressed about needing to "get it all in", that they don't really enjoy any of it. Kinda sad, really. And then they go home from vacation and tell everyone "never again!".

Interesting thought Dave! That just made me recall our honeymoon in 2000. We decided that we weren't going to be concerned with "getting it all in" and just meandered. We went to Epcot on Day 1. Walked in, pretty much went straight to World Showcase and stayed in World Showcase until after the fireworks. That was the year that they had the Millenium Village set up. We spent all day eating, drinking, and shopping around the world...dropped almost a grand, never rode a ride, still one of our greatest Disney days.

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You either get it, or you don't. There is something magical about Disney. But I believe there are people in this world that don't have "magic receptors". They are incapable of feeling magic. Heck, I think they are incapable of enjoyment. Some people just need to be miserable.

Also, like stated earlier, there are also those that have a bad Disney experience because they run from pillar to post all day then go collapse into bed in their hotel, and get up the next morning and do it again. They feel stressed about needing to "get it all in", that they don't really enjoy any of it. Kinda sad, really. And then they go home from vacation and tell everyone "never again!".

Eloquent. This is IT!

I'm about sick of those folks that just need to be miserable! :)

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Have ya seen what puts together and operates the rides at the county fair??? That's what I always say! Don't get me wrong I'm all for going and looking at the cattle and farm shows at our fair and the smells of all that food cooking are great I even enter paintings in the art show but again I ask you HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT PUTS TOGETHER AND OPERATES THE RIDES AT THE FAIR???

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We live near Cedar Point. It's all the rage here to go. I've gone a few times and am MORE than frustrated when I get stuck waiting for close to an hour for a 2 minute ride. :faceplant2: Just not the same waiting for a ride when there is NOTHING clever to look at, listen to, or watch while you wait. :gaah:

I'd rather travel 1200 miles, spend more, and enjoy the Disney that Disney does SO well! :stars-shower-smiley:

We will be in Cedar Poiny July16-19, although it's not Disney we do like the campground and deal with the lines for some great coasters!!!!!!

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Correctomundo David. There are so many small experiences that people skip over at WDW.

If you get around to doing everything, fine. If you don't, they'll be another trip.

I know it's hard to believe, but there are things that I haven't done at every park. In fact we're going over to MK to get caught up on a few tomorrow.

Lou you are 100% right I have been to WDW a few time and there are things I have never done

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Yes the campground at Cedar Point is very nice not like the Fort but did you know that they give you towells at the pool.Plus their rate is almost as high as the Fort.

Yes I knew that and they also have some nice discounts to the park for guests.

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There are also those that say one day, "Let's go to DisneyWorld". No research, no planning, just go. They get there (either Christmas, or most crowded time in the summer), can't get into restaurants, have 4 hours waits for lines, or can't even get in the parks cause they are closed to capacity, and say NEVER AGAIN.

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I think if we all look at what Disney offers it is a great deal. I just talked to a friend that always says Disney is a rip-off and gives me crap for going. Well he told me he had no problem spending around a thousand dollars for 1 day at the county fair for 4 people.

Debating with ignorant people is like banging your head aginst a wall and expecting to hurt the wall.

I can take my family, me DW, and DD to WDW for a week in the summer for about $4200 and that includes airfare, ASmusic resort, park tickets, and all meals and souveniers.

Or i can go on a week long Carnival cruise for about $4200. That includes airfare and a window room, no balconey.

I also can go to Key west florida at the same time for about $4000 and that includes air, hotel, car, and food. NOt including gas, souveniers or entertainment.

I have done the math a dozen times and when you look at the actual numbers it is a pretty good deal, in my opinion.

If your friend wants to bad mouth Disney let him but if you want do the math with him and show him the errors in thinking.

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You are a 100% right. Do Disney with FortFiends one time you will never want to leave

Yup. Just ask TurkeyPants...aka Nicole.

They came and stayed with us for a few days this past fall. Their first night in we picked them up at the airport, left the truck at the campsite (didn't even bother taking their bags out), hopped on the golf cart and headed to MK for a 3am EMH!

And now they're booked for a week and renting a camper from Donnie! :)

There are also those that say one day, "Let's go to DisneyWorld". No research, no planning, just go. They get there (either Christmas, or most crowded time in the summer), can't get into restaurants, have 4 hours waits for lines, or can't even get in the parks cause they are closed to capacity, and say NEVER AGAIN.

I've heard that a lot.

Seriously, WDW is probably one of the places on the planet where you MUST do at least some planning - particularly your first time out of the gate.

My aunt and uncle came down with us a few years ago. They hadn't been in about 15 years and couldn't believe how big the place was. They said that if it hadn't been for us escorting them around, they would have been lost and not seen/done nearly as much.

I'll never understand people that book a vacation that will cost them a few thousand dollars and do ZERO preparation and expect that things will be just perfect.

And I've long ago stopped caring about anyone that thinks we're nuts for going to WDW for 3 weeks every year.

We have way too much fun to care!

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Seriously, WDW is probably one of the places on the planet where you MUST do at least some planning - particularly your first time out of the gate.

My aunt and uncle came down with us a few years ago. They hadn't been in about 15 years and couldn't believe how big the place was. They said that if it hadn't been for us escorting them around, they would have been lost and not seen/done nearly as much.

I'll never understand people that book a vacation that will cost them a few thousand dollars and do ZERO preparation and expect that things will be just perfect.

That's exactly how I found this place! Sitting one night doing some online research for our next trip, and found the fiends with a search. I had never seen the site before, so I decided to take a look. Little did I know that the site had just been "born", or the reasons for the birth. Didn't matter, I found a group of like-minded individuals who collectively have a huge amount of information and are interested only in helping each other have a great time on vacation. What more could you ask for?

Disney vacations at the fort are great. They're even better with some guidance and suggestions!

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While I agree that some planning and a fair amount of research is a must, don't go overboard.

I'm sure you've heard about the spreadsheet, Disney Ap, people that plan every minute of every day so that they maximize their time.

I see them every day. Gutta go here, gutta go there. Slow down.

Have a rough plan of the major things you want to do and about when you want to do them and then let the rest just happen.

WDW will be here for a while. Stop and enjoy the small things.

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I'm a compulsive planner... can't help it.

Our first few trips were scheduled practically by the hour because we weren't sure if/when we'd be coming back and we didn't want to miss anything.

But as time went on and we knew we definitely would be coming back, and our trips got longer and longer, the pressure to plan... well ANYthing really, went away.

Now I usually have a loose schedule based around the park hours, and a handful of ADRs for places we know we really want to go to.

Then we get there and I pretty much never look at the schedule again!

I have the Lines app from Touring Plans, so while we're enjoying a leisurely brunch at the campsite (never quite make it up early enough for breakfast) we scan through what's open when (we like evening EMH), what the crowds levels are predicted to be, what sounds like something fun we'd like to do that day, and we wing it!

Not only is it a lot more fun, it also makes us feel like we're actually on VACATION - and not doing a Theme Park marathon.

Having APs really helps too, since park hopping is built in. It gives us the flexibility to do random things like.... go to MK to watch the fireworks, grab a dole whip (of course), poke around some nooks and crannies and leave. Or pop over to Epcot for a meal or HS just for a late night EMH.

These days our trips are fun and relaxing - and a great vacation all around!!

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