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Beautiful shots - thank you

Good plan - I like that

So a 4 hour limit, kick people out AFTER they've dropped a small fortune on the fancy new food and drinks, but will not have had a hope in HE double hockey sticks of getting on a ride - and wave the Mickey Mitt at them telling them to come back soon. It's all about the Disney $$$$$$$

We don't have a golf cart but we can ride our bikes and hold a lance !!!!!

HOLEY SMOKEOLY !!! I am soooo happy my girls are now 40+ and wouldn't want this and my only granddaughter is now 21 and has already vowed to never have a Disney Wedding. (her mother made her promise that)

Thanks for the pics TCD -and to all the Fiends who are keeping us up to date on this mess. But oh it is so depressing to watch this happen to the Fort.

Big Sigh!!!! I sooo miss Pleasure Island.

I would second this - and as a second choice (or your second night) Blaze Pizza - it is delicious.

Well I guess now that pins are getting as pricey as everything else at Disney maybe they will resort to showcases like the glass ones they use for the LEs.

Saw the locks at the Disney Springs pin shop and also in the Fantasia Shop at Contemporary when we were down in December/January. I guess there was too. much "shrinkage"

We always bring our toaster oven too - it's a Convection Kitchen Aid one that I thought was overly expensive when we bought it but has let me feed 6-8 people in a DVC studio so it's more than paid for itself!!!

Why am I hearing the Wall-E sound track all of a sudden?????

I was thinking the same thing. I have a Minnie and Micky garden statue I got at Flower and Garden years ago that I would put the brick with.

In spades!!!

I just filled my glass (straight up) to write this - as TCD said this is a huge FU to everyone at the Fort. As usual Disney's bean counters have done their calculations and realize there is major money to be made here. Just think of the Hoop-Dee-Doo being the new "show" like the Polynesia! Instead of booking an OWB now you can book a houseboat, anchored at your own private island! No doubt room service can be delivered right to your door! Hot tubs to watch the fireworks at Wilderness Lodge? Nope, your own tub on your own boat! There isn't enough alcohol in my house

Terrified that you are right!

I think the settlement is going to be lost and I'm wondering about the 100 loop and maybe even 200 and 300? Or 400? I remember reading the 700 loop would go but holy crap!! Just how big is the footprint for this monstrosity??? Those buildings beyond Pioneer Hall look to be considerably larger than the old store? And there looks to be two parking areas? It's hard to judge when I blow it up.

I don't know if I should cry or throw up. This is enormous. Someone earlier was talking about how may more people will be there - this looks like 5,000 or 6,000 capacity easily. And when did the cabins get added? I don't remember them from any earlier proposals?

Lordy yes!!!! I'd be able to afford to camp at the Fort again.

You are likely right - and that makes it all even sadder

Us too - last time we walked through the Fort (haven't stayed on property in 3 years) and looked at everything that had changed we just felt sad

With all the stupid/depressing/miserable/dumb@@@/petty/destructive things that have been happening at WDW under his watch the fact that he would be paid that kind of money is just depressing. Only the bean counters are smiling

Add me to the "don't like" group.

This is what I call dumb and dumber - what stupid bean counter came up with this idea!!!!!

I agree - and you are right - everything that we valued about the Fort and WDW just seems to be slipping away. It feels like a snowball going downhill - faster and faster and faster -