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[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

Wow, Todd, another cool photo!

 

That big building in the center foreground had me stumped.

 

But, looking at the photo, it has to be the America Pavilion.  Look how many floors it has!  I know it's tall, but I never realized how tall.

 

Here's some purple crayon annotations that show this is the America Pavilion:

 

 

TCD

[mouseketab.....Carol 1,261]

Wow, Todd, another cool photo!

 

That big building in the center foreground had me stumped.

 

But, looking at the photo, it has to be the America Pavilion.  Look how many floors it has!  I know it's tall, but I never realized how tall.

 

Here's some purple crayon annotations that show this is the America Pavilion:

 

 

TCD

If I remember correctly, they used reverse forced perspective on that building to make it appear shorter.  Looks like lots of office space in the back of that building.

[DaveInTN 3,247]

I don't think that American Pavilion is as big as it appears in the photo.  What looks like individual floors may not be.  The appearance in the photo is of individual floors with windows like a typical office building, but take a look at the back of the building currently and you see there are no windows other than some dormers up top.

 

 

 

And in relation to the vehicles parked back there, the building doesn't look much larger than 5 stories or so, which considering the size of the theater inside seems realistic. 

[mouseketab.....Carol 1,261]

You know what those aren't individual floors, that is construction scaffolding on the back there. Now that I look again, but it is indeed the same building.

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

You know what those aren't individual floors, that is construction scaffolding on the back there. Now that I look again, but it is indeed the same building.

 

 

Yes, but you were right about the reverse forced perspective- that building is 5 stories tall, as Dave says.

 

They used the reversed forced perspective because colonial buildings were not that tall.

 

And that photo is still very cool.

 

TCD

[DaveInTN 3,247]

They used the reversed forced perspective because colonial buildings were not that tall.

 

 

Are you basing that statement on your recollections from history class, or an eyewitness account from Lou?

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

Are you basing that statement on your recollections from history class, or an eyewitness account from Lou?

 

:rofl2:

 

Actually, neither.

 

I've seen many a colonial building in my day.

 

What with growing up across the Delaware from Filth-a-delphia and all.

 

TCD

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[CCIntrigue...aka Gwen 547]

I am loving all these construction pics!

[Discamper 394]

 

I love  how you can see the MK was built two storys up

[CCIntrigue...aka Gwen 547]

I love  how you can see the MK was built two storys up

 

I thought the utilidors are on the ground floor and everything else is 1 story up.

[pbryan 0]

 

 

That is the beam you see today leaving the TTC to EPCOT

 

I don't think that is right...   the support posts are too close together...  and more importantly the monorail beam is not T-shaped... it has a rectangular cross section...

 

 

 

The supports/structure don't look right for the people mover either...  Unless this is all inside Space Mountain...

 

Maybe it's not track at all, but just part of the Space Mountain structure?

 

--Paul 

[ImDownWithDisney 342]

 

 

 

Sheesh....can't believe the Disney "experts" are so stumped on this one

 

That is Space Mountain in early construction.

 

That's not monorail track...wrong cross section, the monorail doesn't make such a hard curve anywhere like that over there.

[Starbuc71 162]

Sheesh....can't believe the Disney "experts" are so stumped on this one

 

That is Space Mountain in early construction.

 

That's not monorail track...wrong cross section, the monorail doesn't make such a hard curve anywhere like that over there.

That's what I said

[DaveInTN 3,247]

Here is another picture of early SM construction....showing the "round thing". 

 

[ftwildernessguy 778]

I hear it now costs 50 million dollars a mile for space mountain track. A bargain compared to what Lou says a monorail track costs.

[ImDownWithDisney 342]

Here is another picture of early SM construction....showing the "round thing". 

 

 

 

I take it back. Clearly, that is the little known monorail "roundhouse" where they conduct secret testing.

[Lou... 3,118]

My best guess.

The smaller higher platform is the upper support structure for the sloped SM roof. The lower larger ring is the lower outer roof support structure. Preformed concrete roof sections are placed all around supported by both rings, and thats what gives SM it's basic shape.

The 4 columns that the upper platform rests on is also used to partially support the coaster. It intertwines between them.

[AC in A2......Aaron 693]

I think it is the inside of the WDW version of the Matterhorn which was subsequently scrapped when they decided for the infinitely much better attraction called the Carousel of Progress.  There's a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow.......

 

 

 

(Cue Nicki throwing things at me from stage right)

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[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

I don't think that is right...   the support posts are too close together...  and more importantly the monorail beam is not T-shaped... it has a rectangular cross section...

 

 

 

The supports/structure don't look right for the people mover either...  Unless this is all inside Space Mountain...

 

Maybe it's not track at all, but just part of the Space Mountain structure?

 

--Paul 

 

 

Sheesh....can't believe the Disney "experts" are so stumped on this one

 

That is Space Mountain in early construction.

 

That's not monorail track...wrong cross section, the monorail doesn't make such a hard curve anywhere like that over there.

 

 

That's what I said

 

Good job guys.

 

I had that thought as well, but since Todd was so adamant about it being the Epcot track, I let it go.

 

These old photos can be tricky with the camera angles and absence of some familiar landmarks.

 

This photo confirms for me that that the previous photo is, in fact, Space Mountain under construction:

 

 

TCD

[DaveInTN 3,247]

Good job guys.

 

I had that thought as well, but since Todd was so adamant about it being the Epcot track, I let it go.

 

These old photos can be tricky with the camera angles and absence of some familiar landmarks.

 

This photo confirms for me that that the previous photo is, in fact, Space Mountain under construction:

 

 

TCD

 

Off topic....but am I seeing correctly that the Skyway ride did not have a redundant cable?  I thought those things always have two cables in the event that the primary cable were to break. 

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

Off topic....but am I seeing correctly that the Skyway ride did not have a redundant cable?  I thought those things always have two cables in the event that the primary cable were to break. 

 

Jeez.  That's a scary thought.  But you're right- it looks like there was only one cable.

 

Looking again at that photo- there are some other very cool details. 

 

You can see men walking on what appear to be the tracks for the People Mover.  To the right of that, I think I see the opening for the tunnel under the train tracks which will eventually become the long, sloped, Space Mountain queue.

 

Also, there are porta potties down at the lower left of the photo.  Those haven't changed a bit in the last 40 years.

 

TCD

[Discamper 394]

Good job guys.

 

I had that thought as well, but since Todd was so adamant about it being the Epcot track, I let it go.

 

These old photos can be tricky with the camera angles and absence of some familiar landmarks.

 

This photo confirms for me that that the previous photo is, in fact, Space Mountain under construction:

 

 

 

Good job guys.

 

I had that thought as well, but since Todd was so adamant about it being the Epcot track, I let it go.

 

These old photos can be tricky with the camera angles and absence of some familiar landmarks.

 

This photo confirms for me that that the previous photo is, in fact, Space Mountain under construction:

 

 

 

 

That Photo was takem frrom the tomorrow return car

 

 

TCD

 

[Discamper 394]