djsamuel

The Fastpass/Maxpass system for DW just like DL could be a step in the right direction. No more advanced reservations and placing all guests on the same level playing field. Good point djsamuel! 

Definitely because too many people drive RV's when they can't even drive/park a car properly.  I can be critical I had a CDL until I retired.

Now we just need to work on 10 ft. utility trailers taking up full size RV spots.

Okay... just realized that last Monday was the 6th, so I could have just said Monday.   Goodness... this past week was crazy busy; feels like we left FL weeks ago.  LOL

We checked in on Wednesday with reservations for a preferred loop. We were upgraded to Premium because the 200 loop was closed for repaving.
It reopened yesterday. We walked over and it was completely repaved, including the removal of the old asphalt. Looks really good. 

They giving out any splinters of wood as souvenirs?

Can't change it, can't stop it, enjoy it while you can, that's my plan.

While I check out the Fort Wilderness facebook pages, I can't bring myself to participate.  All they seem to concentrate on is how to game the system, and also the latest fad they "must do".  That is what makes this site the best for Fort Wilderness.

While I check out the Fort Wilderness facebook pages, I can't bring myself to participate.  All they seem to concentrate on is how to game the system, and also the latest fad they "must do".  That is what makes this site the best for Fort Wilderness.

But you used a key word; "purchase".  We will still take the bus to Fort Wilderness sometimes to walk around, or have breakfast at Trails End.  To me, freeloading is using the amenities that should be strictly for the people paying to stay there (or another Disney resort when they allowed pool hopping).  This would mainly be the pool.

While I check out the Fort Wilderness facebook pages, I can't bring myself to participate.  All they seem to concentrate on is how to game the system, and also the latest fad they "must do".  That is what makes this site the best for Fort Wilderness.

Agree 100%.  To me, the biggest thing the fort can do is require Magic Bands to gain access to the pool.  You do that, you take away the main reason people come in.  I have friends who are guards there and they block a LOT of people trying to get in.  They even try to monitor the camera at the side gate, yet people keep trying to tailgate a bus to gain entry.  I've seen some tailgate a bus to drive down the service road from Fort Wilderness (when it was open).  And as you stated, you have the buses and boats adding to it.  We've been on a bus to the Fort from Disney Springs and have seen families get on carrying pool toys and towels while in their bathing suits! They were dry and were obviously not coming from Typhoon Lagoon since the Typhoon Lagoon bus used to drop everyone off at Disney Springs. 
The thing is, as long as you have people so willing to do what they know is wrong, they will always find a way.  Eliminate the "prize" , i.e. the pool access, and you will greatly reduce those trying to get in.  

Actually, as a local, there is no difference between a Floridian and a local by any definition.  I live 30 minutes away, my wife worked years for Disney and retired and now we enjoy the benefits she earned when we can fit it in around my work schedule.  We use the amenities at the Fort when we are PAYING to stay there. What the Fort needs to control are rude self centered people, be they from 5 miles away or 1,000 miles, paying or freeloading (which by definition is rude and self centered).  Unfortunately that is the problem and is a reflection of society not Disney.  Knowing some people who work at Disney and the Fort as well, they are trying VERY hard to improve things and still maintain an enjoyable atmosphere that allows people to enjoy themselves.  We've witnessed freeloaders at the Fort from many states away who aren't staying on Disney property at all.  The guards have to put up with people flashing their annual pass and demanding access to everything at Fort Wilderness.  It is a very tough job.

While I check out the Fort Wilderness facebook pages, I can't bring myself to participate.  All they seem to concentrate on is how to game the system, and also the latest fad they "must do".  That is what makes this site the best for Fort Wilderness.

While I check out the Fort Wilderness facebook pages, I can't bring myself to participate.  All they seem to concentrate on is how to game the system, and also the latest fad they "must do".  That is what makes this site the best for Fort Wilderness.

I agree with you, but In past references on this site, locals were tagged as freeloaders who used amenities without being a paying fort visitor.  Not saying per say that people who live in Florida are all freeloaders.  You get the point

I remember back in the dark ages there used to be a sign to the right of the MK "toll booth" that would say there were/were not campgrounds available tonight.

Actually, as a local, there is no difference between a Floridian and a local by any definition.  I live 30 minutes away, my wife worked years for Disney and retired and now we enjoy the benefits she earned when we can fit it in around my work schedule.  We use the amenities at the Fort when we are PAYING to stay there. What the Fort needs to control are rude self centered people, be they from 5 miles away or 1,000 miles, paying or freeloading (which by definition is rude and self centered).  Unfortunately that is the problem and is a reflection of society not Disney.  Knowing some people who work at Disney and the Fort as well, they are trying VERY hard to improve things and still maintain an enjoyable atmosphere that allows people to enjoy themselves.  We've witnessed freeloaders at the Fort from many states away who aren't staying on Disney property at all.  The guards have to put up with people flashing their annual pass and demanding access to everything at Fort Wilderness.  It is a very tough job.

We were at Fort Wilderness today.  The road between the Fort and Wilderness Lodge is now closed.  The bus to Wilderness Lodge now drops you off and picks you up at the Outpost.  A large fence now blocks the road and the area just past the barn.  In the picture, that is the cross walk to the trail to Wilderness Lodge.  You can see the fencing just past that.

My money is on it's return because of the Surreys and bike rental at WL.

It's not just people with scooters and strollers, far too many people walking down Main St. or where ever just come to a complete stop right in the middle of a crowd. Even in a grocery store. How many stop in the middle of an aisle instead of staying on one side or the other?  It is obvious that common courtesy and sense have gone "out the window" period.

If they limited strollers to umbrella style only (that would be FANTASTIC), how would the Mommy Bloggers get their street cred? 
They won't be able to show off their $500 to $1,000 specially imported strollers that make them the talk of their playgroups and make them the Queen Bees!
I'm glad we are done raising kids.  We were thrilled when we found a Levis umbrella stroller for our first daughter back in 1978.  I think we spent a whopping $23 for it.  We used it for at least 2 more kids, maybe 3.  The holes in the frame where the axle went wallowed out, so I removed the axle, hammered dowels into the frame and re-drilled the holes.  Got a couple more years use out of it.
Now they have all of these modern strollers where the kids are suspended in mid air 3 feet off the ground and they cost as much as my first car did.

Construction of the new Beach has started.
 

Yes, it is the area east of the boat dock. 

Wonder if WDW will let the sod put down roots before the dogs are let back in?  Good day today for sod rooting, cool and a gentle rain.